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7 years 9 months ago #78852 by Seanie_Morris
michaeloconnell wrote:

Seanie,

I think the point you are missing is that different people have different requirements.
Some people want it, some people don't.


Um, no, that is the point! ;)

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7 years 9 months ago - 7 years 9 months ago #78854 by Frank Ryan
Seanie_Morris wrote:

People wanted a topic notification of some sort in place


And the 'some sort' of one that was there was grand.
EG
If you WANT to be notified of EVERY SINGLE reply to a thread - Tick Here.

Seanie_Morris wrote:

Now you DON'T want that.

No, what people DON'T want is to HAVE to UNCHECK a tick box for EVERY
thread they reply to.


If you are finding that there are two camps then
would it not be easier to just run a poll and be done with it
rather than again wagging the finger at us pesky users.

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7 years 9 months ago #78872 by dmcdona
The old site had the option of each user being able to turn on/off notifications as s/he saw fit. This worked.

The new site doesn't currently have that ability. There is the ability, at admin level, to do this on a global basis. When the site first went live, the global setting was to allow notifications by default, with each user having to actively turn it off if they didn't want notifications. This was then changed on the basis of feedback from some users a few weeks after the new site went live.

Then there was more feedback that users wanted the global setting changed back. This has been done in the last few weeks.

Now we have more feedback from users that want it changed back to a "no notification by default" setting.

Or at least that's my recollection...


The choices we have, as far as I can see them, are this:

1. Keep to-ing and fro-ing between the two groups depending on who makes the most noise
2. Have a poll that determine what the majority wants (i.e. objectively figure out which group has the largest number in favour of their position)
3. Let the web team implement the new software gizmo in the near future and do away with the to-ing and fro-ing...

Option 1 will drive the web team nuts and the two groups will be at each other trying to make more and more noise in favour of their position
Option 2 will be a temporary fix that will annoy one of the two groups but would at least be democratic and based on real data
Option 3 will be a permanent fix satisfying everybody

Option 4 is that we can argue 'til the cows come home.

"Sure, you can just tick the 'notify me box'"
"No, YOU can just tick the 'DON'T notify me' box"
<repeat ad infinitum>

My preference is 'notifications on by default' followed by option 3. Your mileage may vary. But that's my own preference - I know others have a different need and I respect that completely.

For those commenting on "what people want is ...." - there is no empirical evidence either way of "what people want". We just don't know. Right now we're talking preference, speculation and opinion. Nothing more.

So, what do we do?

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7 years 9 months ago #78873 by darragh
Hi,

I am looking into a way to set the auto-subscribe through your user profile rather than on the system level.

There is also a new release of the software coming soon that will allow folks to subscribe to a category to get all new topics started in the category as email
This will sort out the issue of new topic notifications

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7 years 9 months ago #78876 by Frank Ryan
dmcdona wrote:

So, what do we do?


Find out how long it will take to implement the new choices
and if it's gonna take more than say a month,
do a quick poll, go with the majority and
the few week will fly.
I'm sure if it's done in a democratic way
nobody can really complain.

or
we could all just have a big pie fight.

I'm easy either way.

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7 years 9 months ago #78878 by dmcdona
Pie fight sounds good...

Your other suggestion sounds better though ;)

I'd certainly have no problem going with the majority if we could have a poll.

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7 years 9 months ago #78882 by michaeloconnell
darragh wrote:

Hi,

I am looking into a way to set the auto-subscribe through your user profile rather than on the system level.

There is also a new release of the software coming soon that will allow folks to subscribe to a category to get all new topics started in the category as email
This will sort out the issue of new topic notifications

Regards
Darragh


Thanks for the clarification Darragh.

BTW, have you examined a way to implement a means of running a poll on the site.
Would be very useful for the astrophotography & sketching competitions.
At the moment, we take in votes by pm, which isn't ideal.

Thanks,

Michael.

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7 years 9 months ago #78891 by dave_lillis
oh right, I didnt realise we couldnt run a poll.

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7 years 9 months ago #78905 by Seanie_Morris
Dave_Lillis wrote:

oh right, I didnt realise we couldnt run a poll.


That was going to be my secret weapon if this got nasty! :P

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6 years 6 months ago #86034 by PhilipLardner
Hi Darragh,

Just a quick heads-up for you - A new release of the Kunena forum software now allows users to subscribe to entire topics (and also the entire forum - or just to individual topics) so that they receive an email notification in their in-box whenever a post or reply is made. Thought this might be of interest.

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6 years 6 months ago #86041 by darragh
Phil,

Thanks for that, I'll have a look over the next few days

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6 years 6 months ago #86042 by PhilipLardner
Hmm... just tried installing the latest Kunena on my localhost test-bed - looks like it also requires you to upgrade both Joomla and PHP also to latest versions. Not as straight forward as I had hoped.

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6 years 2 months ago #87743 by darragh
Philip,

I have upgrade Joomla to 1.5.22 and Kunena to 1.6.2 and have also install J!MailAlert which can do daily digests.

I haven't figure out how to get J!Mail Alert working yet, but will reply when I do.

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5 years 9 months ago #89773 by darragh
Hi

You can now subscribe to a forum to get new topics

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