Warning to the user bradguth-gasa-ieis

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Your posts have all been extremely abusive to ANYONE who dissagrees with you. You state that only idiots and the brain washed could possibly dissagree with you and you have picked particularly on one of our members. These kinds of posts MUST stop or you will have the dubious honour of being the first person EVER to be banned from these boards.

Clear Skies,

Bart Busschots,
IFAS Webmaster.

Besides a number of borgs, lots of nice folks have disagreed with my notions, as many can't see a darn thing but purely hot rocks as existing on Venus, and if they had provided something of their own thinking and/or of some other resource other than quoting from the NASA moderated bible, as to backing up their argument that all is purely as natural and as hot and nasty as they want myself and all of the world to believe, then I don't fire off any nasty return flak.

BTW; I totally agree that Venus is "hot and nasty", thereby NOT suited for humans, especially of snookered and dumbfounded humans that are also blind.

guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
guthvenus.tripod.com/update-242.htm

It seems rather odd, that of every updated report upon Venus that I've noticed over the past three years, there has been reductions in the nighttime thermal conditions, and even an increase in the factors of H2O and of just good old O2, as in a KECK-II imaged that rather large green glow, as of nearly 4 years ago, that which simply should not have been there if the mainstream status quo is to be all there is to know about Venus.

I'll take exception when the words of supposed smart folks are not willing to accept or even toy with any notion whatsoever that includes the least bit of anything artificial at play, as though humanity and of our pathetic WMD limited intelligence is all there is, and Earth is apparently still flat as a pancake, as well as polluting itself to death and otherwise running out of energy at that.

Without my suggesting upon anything artificial at play, I'd like to start off with another topic so that someone might inform us about the nighttime cloud opacity; is it exactly the same as or is it different than daytime?

And I could certainly think of at least a dozen other topics or questions that could exclude anything artificial, although for 360 years astronomers have been doing just that sort of thing about those rather bright illumination spots (such as the Alen heath4.jpg) that simply haven't been defined by the laws of physics as anything all that natural.

So, how about a specific new topic; "Venus Illumination Spots"

Staying "on topic" is by far the most important rule.

Keeping an open mind is perhaps an even more worthwhile rule.

Idea bashing for sport is not the same thing as staying on topic.

Providing information on some cult "need to know basis" isn't helping.

Suggesting that someone is either blind or snookered is only fair play.

Myself and the likes of Walter Cronkite have been snookered for more than 35 years, and now our resident warlord is seriously running humanity amuck, and you and I get to pay for all of that.

I totally agree;
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein

I seem to have more than my fair share of said "imagination", along with a few perfectly good Magellan images, and a few of those pesky laws of physics on my side. Other than all of that, I could use all the help possible from the many critics of irishastronomy, as well as friends of humanity.

Bart et all,

I think this cleverless dick is getting a kick out of all this! I actually find him funny at this stage!

How many times does he have to keep going on and on and on and on and on... get my drift? before we have to expel him?

And all we do is feed his insecurity with the notion that what he has is a unique hypothesis, and he is the only one to have come up with this theory... and by golly, his salesmanship leaves alot to be desired! Its a dated theory, and HAS BEEN MORE OR LESS PROVEN TO BE CONFINED TO THE UPPER OUT-OF-REACH SHELVES!

Opinions are opinions, but I wish he would stop forcing his upon us! He's like some religious freak, telling us we won't get into heaven or upper utopia unless we change to his way of thinking, forsaking all others...

...I say, give it up, if any of us want to go to hell, then let us!

Now shut your trap Brad and get a hobby!

:twisted:

Bart et al
Iagree completly with Seanie. Can we send this life form back to venus and let us miserable earthlings remain in ignorance of his mind blowing intellect and ideas. This particular life form seems to have very thick skin and endless amount of time to irritate and annoy us. Maybe we should advise SETI to give up because if this is typical of other forms of life, I think we should stay quiet and let them pass us by. Undoubtly this post will fall on blind eyes across the big pond and more rubbish will find its way to us
BRAD
You do not get it. We dont want your ideas shoved down our throats so maybe you could place them delicately on another website such as www.astronomy.ie where you would reach a larger audience. Hopefully ,BRAD, this is good bye but somehow I doubt it, but go on prove me right just this once once bibi :D :D

Pertaining to the topic of: "Ashen Lights = other life on Venus, NOT as we know it"

"albertw" the thread locking wizard on behalf of "Brian O'Halloran" has struck again. Just as well because absolutely nothing from the likes of Brian O'Halloran offers humanity any hope whatsoever.

Brian O'Halloran; "for the last time - Venus is a dead rock (biologically dead, though geologically probably active), there is certainly no intelligent life there. This is underpinned by 40 years of peer-reviewed data"

Seems I wasn't asking for anything but of expertise feedback and of alternative ideas pertaining to other life on Venus (other than atmospheric microbes or diatoms), never once was I suggesting any notion that the likes of Brian O'Halloran could survive regardless of whatever applied technology because, Lord Brian knows for a bloody fact that life is only possible upon Earth and perhaps Mars where everything is seriously frozen solid into CO2, pulverized and otherwise irradiated to death, and of where there's almost no available energy to boot, much like Earth will become within the next century, if not otherwise extremely greenhouse hot and nasty like Venus.

All I ever received was their absolute flak of mainstrean status quo from the likes of Brian and a slight number of others clearly incapable of thinking outside of their box, or of allowing others to think out side the mainstream box.

Since all of irishastronomy.org can't manage to openly discuss the notions of what and of how so much illumination is emerging from Venus, especially when that's supposedly next to impossible as to happen by way of any natural cause, it thereby must be true that there's a whole lot more to Venus than Irish folks want the public to know about.

It also seems, if I or others do not agree with their mainstream status quo, that of any subsequent arguments are pointless, and as to prove that point their thread locking master "albertw" will terminate the topic, thus terminating the topic edit function.

Brian O'Halloran; "Nothing that you've provided here is going to change my opinion - or indeed anyone else's on this board"

If that's not a perfectly borg like collective overlord of control, then I don't know what is.

In deed, I may contact the likes of Brian O'Halloran off board, with my humble regrets that "I told you so", and of being sorry that I wasn't up to your peer review standards when trying to convey topics on the positive and humanitarian sorts of things that I thought were worth discussing. Obviously the likes of "irishastronomy.org" needs someone of a much higher authority, perhaps Pope like, before they'll budge an inch, much less help the future of humanity.

BTW; the only folks objecting to the discovery of other life elsewhere are the sorts of folks that don't really have all that much to offer life here on Earth, and wouldn't have changed the past even if they could, thus the notion of allowing others to formulate an improved future becomes the ultimate threat to their existence. And that's really too bad because, some of the irishastronomy folks may not be fully integrated into the borg collective, although I do believe time is running out.