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When does a Star Diagonal get old?
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17 years 19 hours ago #55062
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When does a Star Diagonal get old? was created by donalmcnamara
Just wondering if Star Diagonal's get old and how can you tell? I have the standard Celestron Diagonal that came with the scope I purchased second hand. Reckon it must be approx 6-7 years old now by now. I know lots of folks update for various reasons, but how can you tell when they are past their best by date?
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17 years 19 hours ago #55064
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Replied by philiplardner on topic Re: When does a Star Diagonal get old?
Like all reflective surfaces the star diagonal is subject to atmospheric attack and dirt. The mirrors in an SCT are reasonably well protected by the corrector plate but there is still atmospheric exchange through the focuser hole, which eventually leads to problems - though it generally takes a long time (tens of years.)
As long as the diagonal is clean, free of dust and dirt, and does not look hazed or discoloured you shouldn't see any noticable difference in your images. A dirty, damaged or hazed diagonal will cause a slight increase in the diffusion of light around stars and objects (less light will reach a perfect focus.)
If you can get your hands on a new(er) diagonal then you can perform a quantative test by imaging a bright star at high magnification and analysing the diffraction ring patterns. Assuming a night of excellent seeing (or at least equal for the two exposures) then you should see a slight increase in brightness in the outer rings with the old diagonal. I doubt you'll see any noticable difference though!
If you're just paranoid, you can always get the diagonal re-coated, though you would want to get the original StarBright coatings to make it as good as a new diagonal.
Phil.
As long as the diagonal is clean, free of dust and dirt, and does not look hazed or discoloured you shouldn't see any noticable difference in your images. A dirty, damaged or hazed diagonal will cause a slight increase in the diffusion of light around stars and objects (less light will reach a perfect focus.)
If you can get your hands on a new(er) diagonal then you can perform a quantative test by imaging a bright star at high magnification and analysing the diffraction ring patterns. Assuming a night of excellent seeing (or at least equal for the two exposures) then you should see a slight increase in brightness in the outer rings with the old diagonal. I doubt you'll see any noticable difference though!
If you're just paranoid, you can always get the diagonal re-coated, though you would want to get the original StarBright coatings to make it as good as a new diagonal.
Phil.
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17 years 18 hours ago #55069
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I echo this part Donal - if you don't notice any deterioration in what you're seeing (ghosting even when collimated, aberration - even with a top quality lens), then you have nothing to worry about.
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As long as the diagonal is clean, free of dust and dirt, and does not look hazed or discoloured you shouldn't see any noticable difference in your images. A dirty, damaged or hazed diagonal will cause a slight increase in the diffusion of light around stars and objects (less light will reach a perfect focus.)
I echo this part Donal - if you don't notice any deterioration in what you're seeing (ghosting even when collimated, aberration - even with a top quality lens), then you have nothing to worry about.
Seanie.
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Former IFAS Chairperson and Secretary.
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17 years 18 hours ago #55071
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Replied by donalmcnamara on topic Re: When does a Star Diagonal get old?
Thanks for the advice and reassurance.
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17 years 14 hours ago #55081
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*Moved to the Observing Equipment forum*
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17 years 13 hours ago #55085
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Anthony Ayiomamitis
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Replied by ayiomamitis on topic Re: When does a Star Diagonal get old?
Donal,
For critical work (ex. photography), we can always attach our equipment directly and without the need to use a diagonal. In fact, it may be a good idea to skip the diagonal anyway so as to bypass possible flexure.
For critical work (ex. photography), we can always attach our equipment directly and without the need to use a diagonal. In fact, it may be a good idea to skip the diagonal anyway so as to bypass possible flexure.
Anthony Ayiomamitis
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