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Man, with all the smart folks in the world you would think a new propulsion system to allow these distances to be traversed would have been invented! mabie im just a bit impatient!
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The British gave up calling a million million a "billion" about 15 years ago.
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P.S. I've read in several places that the Voyagers will reach the distance to the Alpha Centauri system (If they were going there) in about 80,000 years.
That would mean that they would get to 20 LY in less than 400,000 years.
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The British Interplanetary Society ( www.bis-spaceflight.com/ )published a design in the 1970s for a spacecraft to go to Barnard's Star in just 50 years powered by nuclear fusion.
This design would go the 20 LY in less than 200 years...if it had enough fuel.
Half the journey... accelerate.
Second half.....swing around and decelerate!
Project Daedalus:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Daedalus
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