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FCO's really do work
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18 years 1 month ago #33667
by pmgisme
Replied by pmgisme on topic Re: FCO's really do work
Can you imagine a plumbing engineer who designs plumbing fittings that always leak ?
That is the status of most "Public Lighting Engineers".
The people who design those energy wasting gadgets do not deserve the honourable title "Engineer".
I have other names for them.
Non "FCO" lighting gadgets are simply STUPIDLY DESIGNED and should be called "DBI"...... "Designed By Idiots."
Peter.
That is the status of most "Public Lighting Engineers".
The people who design those energy wasting gadgets do not deserve the honourable title "Engineer".
I have other names for them.
Non "FCO" lighting gadgets are simply STUPIDLY DESIGNED and should be called "DBI"...... "Designed By Idiots."
Peter.
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18 years 1 month ago #33670
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Thats a great analogy, a perfect way of describing it.
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Replied by dave_lillis on topic Re: FCO's really do work
Can you imagine a plumbing engineer who designs plumbing fittings that always leak ?
Thats a great analogy, a perfect way of describing it.
Dave L. on facebook , See my images in flickr
Chairman. Shannonside Astronomy Club (Limerick)
Carrying around my 20" obsession is going to kill me,
but what a way to go.
+ 12"LX200, MK67, Meade2045, 4"refractor
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18 years 1 month ago #33673
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However when you speak to the engineers to get them to use/design better lighting its more effective to concentrate on the benefits and the things we can agree on rather than calling them idiots
Cheers,
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Replied by albertw on topic Re: FCO's really do work
Non "FCO" lighting gadgets are simply STUPIDLY DESIGNED and should be called "DBI"...... "Designed By Idiots."
However when you speak to the engineers to get them to use/design better lighting its more effective to concentrate on the benefits and the things we can agree on rather than calling them idiots
Cheers,
~Al
Albert White MSc FRAS
Chairperson, International Dark Sky Association - Irish Section
www.darksky.ie/
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18 years 1 month ago #33674
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Dave L. on facebook , See my images in flickr
Chairman. Shannonside Astronomy Club (Limerick)
Carrying around my 20" obsession is going to kill me,
but what a way to go.
+ 12"LX200, MK67, Meade2045, 4"refractor
Replied by dave_lillis on topic Re: FCO's really do work
:lol: :lol:
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18 years 1 month ago #33677
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Replied by pmgisme on topic Re: FCO's really do work
Call them what they ARE, tell them what you REALLY think, and don't beat about the bush.
Those people POLLUTE and waste energy.
Amen.
Those people POLLUTE and waste energy.
Amen.
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18 years 1 month ago #33680
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Replied by dmcdona on topic Re: FCO's really do work
Peter - surely there is an element of educating the end-user to choose approriate designs that reduce pollution and increase efficiency?
The poor designers would soon cotton on to the fact that their designs are not selling and either design a better product or change job.
I don't think calling their products stupid and the engineers idiots would be productive. Focusing on the design of more efficient and less polluting products would be a far better approach IMO.
Dave
The poor designers would soon cotton on to the fact that their designs are not selling and either design a better product or change job.
I don't think calling their products stupid and the engineers idiots would be productive. Focusing on the design of more efficient and less polluting products would be a far better approach IMO.
Dave
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