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13 years 10 months ago #88114
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It's a pity no one gives a rat's ass in this country about this very problem. Here is the funny thing I got home form work tonight and there was a letter in my door way from a FF TD asking me to have every confidence in the party and give them my vote. My point being they don't even have the NUTS to call to the door anymore. Anyone feel like a rant.
www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/countryside/82...says-rural-body.html
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Carl O’Beirnes,
Scopes and Space Ltd,
Unit A8 Airside Enterprise Centre,
Swords, Co Dublin,
Ireland.
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13 years 10 months ago #88115
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Replied by Keith g on topic Re: Light Pollution Story
:rant: I'm with you 100% on this Carl, at a time in this country where there is a need to save money in our economy, part of the answer is staring the government & people right in the face, the sheer wastage of the cost of electricity generation to light up needlessly large spaces is an absoloute disgrace in this country, planning laws require a lampost every 25m in distance minimum, it just beggard belief..
Rubbish!!!!, a study i had read some years ago came to the conclusion that it's now easier for criminals to see their targets, litterally being put on a plate for them.
Also what's wrong with dimming lights from say 11pm until 6am? Jesus wept! even primary school kids could see this, not like the gombeens we are supposed to have a choice about in the next few weeks.
I wrote to the minister of the environment some years ago at the time Dick Roche, I was politely told to go and F off :devil:
That the attitude in this country folks - gombeenland
Keith..
However, supporters of street lighting maintain that well-lit public areas reduce the risk of crime, particularly in remote communities.
Rubbish!!!!, a study i had read some years ago came to the conclusion that it's now easier for criminals to see their targets, litterally being put on a plate for them.
Also what's wrong with dimming lights from say 11pm until 6am? Jesus wept! even primary school kids could see this, not like the gombeens we are supposed to have a choice about in the next few weeks.
I wrote to the minister of the environment some years ago at the time Dick Roche, I was politely told to go and F off :devil:
That the attitude in this country folks - gombeenland
Keith..
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13 years 10 months ago #88116
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"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known." - Carl Sagan
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As I live on the outskirts of Newbridge on the edge of the Curragh, the level of light pollution is still relatively low (thank goodness!). The worst offenders however are the ubiqitous street lights, with their incessant orange glare : angry:
If something isn't done about light pollution my kids are going to grow up without ever having the fun of lying out on the grass and gazing up at a galaxy of stars. Does anyone have any suggestions about what to say in a letter to the local council etc?
If something isn't done about light pollution my kids are going to grow up without ever having the fun of lying out on the grass and gazing up at a galaxy of stars. Does anyone have any suggestions about what to say in a letter to the local council etc?
"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known." - Carl Sagan
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13 years 10 months ago #88118
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Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning.
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A lot of councils in England are now turning off their street lights between midnight and 5am to save money. Others are just leaving every third light on. Now, this makes a lot of sense and I woudl like to know how much these councils are saving with these actions.
As I have already mentioned a new, small, roundabout was built near my home, it is in the middle of a crossroads, this is in a small estate remember, two street lights were already in place, and it was decided to add two more. Madness.
I guarantee that if you mention light pollution to the clowns who knock on your door they will stare blankly at you. When you carefully explain what it is, they will assure you that something will be done about it, when they get into power nothing will change.
It appears that there is no desire to save money, if you need cash, up the rents, add new taxes and go back to the IMF.
As I have already mentioned a new, small, roundabout was built near my home, it is in the middle of a crossroads, this is in a small estate remember, two street lights were already in place, and it was decided to add two more. Madness.
I guarantee that if you mention light pollution to the clowns who knock on your door they will stare blankly at you. When you carefully explain what it is, they will assure you that something will be done about it, when they get into power nothing will change.
It appears that there is no desire to save money, if you need cash, up the rents, add new taxes and go back to the IMF.
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning.
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13 years 6 months ago - 13 years 6 months ago #89390
by Derek Davey
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ive been thinking about light pollution and its the same storey in every town and city in this country,
the amount of unnessecery lights all around the place is crazy, an example here is a load of lights on a dual carriage way, where i can see no need for any lights there at all, no houses no foot paths no lighting needed at all but the lighting on this road is crazy, thers an place i go with the scope and its is about 3 or 4 miles away from this dual carriage way, but i can still see the sky is really orange in that area, its like having a mini las vegas 3 miles away, from the same observing sit i can see the lights of a retail park, again pure orange sky,
and another place i go brings me in a different direction, but when leaving the town on this road the street lights keep on going for 1.5 miles outside the town, now what can all this lighting be for?
these are just a few examples in my area, and there are many more, besides washing out the night sky, this has to cost an absolute fortune every year,
just my rant
the amount of unnessecery lights all around the place is crazy, an example here is a load of lights on a dual carriage way, where i can see no need for any lights there at all, no houses no foot paths no lighting needed at all but the lighting on this road is crazy, thers an place i go with the scope and its is about 3 or 4 miles away from this dual carriage way, but i can still see the sky is really orange in that area, its like having a mini las vegas 3 miles away, from the same observing sit i can see the lights of a retail park, again pure orange sky,
and another place i go brings me in a different direction, but when leaving the town on this road the street lights keep on going for 1.5 miles outside the town, now what can all this lighting be for?
these are just a few examples in my area, and there are many more, besides washing out the night sky, this has to cost an absolute fortune every year,
just my rant
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13 years 6 months ago #89391
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I live in a small village south of Athy Co Kildare I am about 7km from Athy - even so i can see the glow of this medium size town to the extent that my northern view is pretty useless. looking east I see the glow from Carlow town. I really only have west and south. but in all honesty I am better off than most back garden astronomers. I do agree with the comments that most of our fellow men are ignorant of the light pollution issue and know even less about light trespass. and we also live in a world where most people would believe in astrology rather than astronomy....I have had conversations with people in my own village, where I would have been better off just saying Rubarb, rubarb rubarb rubarb rebarb
We are as a nation ignorant of most environmental matters and are probably about 30 years behind many northern European nations when it comes to issues like the one above. If the light pollution issue is ever solved for us.....it will be because of energy saving stratagies and not to facilitate astronomers
BTW I was at a community alert meeting a couple of years ago when someone suggest more street lights were needed around a small park in the village to discourage anti-social behaviour:laugh: Get some garda to patrol the village - all the lights in the world are useless unless someone can actually go and stop the anti-social behaviour
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Co Laois
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We are as a nation ignorant of most environmental matters and are probably about 30 years behind many northern European nations when it comes to issues like the one above. If the light pollution issue is ever solved for us.....it will be because of energy saving stratagies and not to facilitate astronomers
BTW I was at a community alert meeting a couple of years ago when someone suggest more street lights were needed around a small park in the village to discourage anti-social behaviour:laugh: Get some garda to patrol the village - all the lights in the world are useless unless someone can actually go and stop the anti-social behaviour
signed
very disturbed
Co Laois
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