- Posts: 4557
- Thank you received: 76
Strange Gradient - Need Help Please!
- dmcdona
- Offline
- Administrator
Less
More
17 years 3 weeks ago #56723
by dmcdona
Replied by dmcdona on topic Re: Strange Gradient - Need Help Please!
Dave - if dew/frost are not the issue then it might be either vignetting or an internal reflection.
I really suspect vignetting. This looks exactly what I get with the Proline. I get it more so when there are clouds about It certainly isn't an internal reflection as far as I can tell. Though mine is slightly offset from center.
For now, flats do the job (if I can be bothered to use them).
HTH
Dave
I really suspect vignetting. This looks exactly what I get with the Proline. I get it more so when there are clouds about It certainly isn't an internal reflection as far as I can tell. Though mine is slightly offset from center.
For now, flats do the job (if I can be bothered to use them).
HTH
Dave
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- bertthebudgie
- Offline
- Main Sequence
Less
More
- Posts: 395
- Thank you received: 0
17 years 3 weeks ago #56728
by bertthebudgie
Eqipment
Lx90 8' SCT, UHC Narrowband filter
SPC900 Webcam, Atik 16ic
Astrozap Dew Heater
Meade eyepieces & barlows 9,26 and 32mm
Moonfish 32mm 2"
_______________________________________
"Always pass to the man in space"
Replied by bertthebudgie on topic Re: Strange Gradient - Need Help Please!
Silly question but did you take flats DG?
Eqipment
Lx90 8' SCT, UHC Narrowband filter
SPC900 Webcam, Atik 16ic
Astrozap Dew Heater
Meade eyepieces & barlows 9,26 and 32mm
Moonfish 32mm 2"
_______________________________________
"Always pass to the man in space"
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- michaeloconnell
- Offline
- Administrator
Less
More
- Posts: 6334
- Thank you received: 315
17 years 3 weeks ago #56729
by michaeloconnell
Replied by michaeloconnell on topic Re: Strange Gradient - Need Help Please!
What way do you store the camera, filter and field flattener? in the observatory or in the house?
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- DaveGrennan
- Topic Author
- Offline
- IFAS Astronomer of the Year 2010
Less
More
- Posts: 2707
- Thank you received: 32
17 years 3 weeks ago #56760
by DaveGrennan
Regards and Clear Skies,
Dave.
J41 - Raheny Observatory.
www.webtreatz.com
Equipment List here
Replied by DaveGrennan on topic Re: Strange Gradient - Need Help Please!
Guys I'm pretty sure it aint vignetting. I used to get vignetting when I used 1.25" gear. Vignetting looks far more gradual that that. In any case with 2" fittings and only a 2/3inch diagonal CCD vignetting is not a problem. The strange thing is this just started last night and is evident on the ATIk 16HR and the ATIK16HRC
Deebee: This is just a single uncorrected frame.
Michael: The cameras are stored in the house. I know what your thinking, dew on the optical window. I do get this sometimes but I checked for that and in any case this normally looks like the inverse of what you see there, i.e. darker in the middle in an oval pattern. SO it aint that.
Anyway I did some tests this evening by taking some flats through the CLS, R, G, and B filters. The central brightening is only evident in the CLS and Blue channels.
Kieran: You might be onto something there alright, although no dew was evident on the outside, there might have been on the inside. However There was a kendrick tape active around the scope so this should have kept the whole scope clear.
I think Phil has it there; I need to strip out each of the variables to see which one it is.
More tests needed methinks.
Thansk for all the feedback.
Deebee: This is just a single uncorrected frame.
Michael: The cameras are stored in the house. I know what your thinking, dew on the optical window. I do get this sometimes but I checked for that and in any case this normally looks like the inverse of what you see there, i.e. darker in the middle in an oval pattern. SO it aint that.
Anyway I did some tests this evening by taking some flats through the CLS, R, G, and B filters. The central brightening is only evident in the CLS and Blue channels.
Kieran: You might be onto something there alright, although no dew was evident on the outside, there might have been on the inside. However There was a kendrick tape active around the scope so this should have kept the whole scope clear.
I think Phil has it there; I need to strip out each of the variables to see which one it is.
More tests needed methinks.
Thansk for all the feedback.
Regards and Clear Skies,
Dave.
J41 - Raheny Observatory.
www.webtreatz.com
Equipment List here
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- phoenix
- Offline
- Red Giant
Less
More
- Posts: 857
- Thank you received: 29
17 years 3 weeks ago #56777
by phoenix
I had the dew heater running aswell when it happened to me. I think the dew cleared on the outside of the lens quicker due to air movement and I then zapped it with a hair dryer.
Kieran
16" ODK (incoming), Mesu Mount 200, APM TMB 80mm, SXV H16, SXV H9
J16 An Carraig Observatory
ancarraigobservatory.co.uk/
Replied by phoenix on topic Re: Strange Gradient - Need Help Please!
Kieran: You might be onto something there alright, although no dew was evident on the outside, there might have been on the inside. However There was a kendrick tape active around the scope so this should have kept the whole scope clear.
I had the dew heater running aswell when it happened to me. I think the dew cleared on the outside of the lens quicker due to air movement and I then zapped it with a hair dryer.
Kieran
16" ODK (incoming), Mesu Mount 200, APM TMB 80mm, SXV H16, SXV H9
J16 An Carraig Observatory
ancarraigobservatory.co.uk/
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- DaveGrennan
- Topic Author
- Offline
- IFAS Astronomer of the Year 2010
Less
More
- Posts: 2707
- Thank you received: 32
17 years 3 weeks ago #56779
by DaveGrennan
Regards and Clear Skies,
Dave.
J41 - Raheny Observatory.
www.webtreatz.com
Equipment List here
Replied by DaveGrennan on topic Re: Strange Gradient - Need Help Please!
Yeah Kieran, I suspect you are right. I had a look at a few more subs from a while back and there is no evidence of this. Also the dew could possibly have been inside the flattener.
I had a go at flat fielding these frames and the flats seemed to overcorrect the central brightening (introducing a central dimming.)However by adding 15,000 to the ADU of the flat fields it pretty much got rid of it. So at least I should be able to produce something from last nights set!
I had a go at flat fielding these frames and the flats seemed to overcorrect the central brightening (introducing a central dimming.)However by adding 15,000 to the ADU of the flat fields it pretty much got rid of it. So at least I should be able to produce something from last nights set!
Regards and Clear Skies,
Dave.
J41 - Raheny Observatory.
www.webtreatz.com
Equipment List here
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Time to create page: 0.108 seconds