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18 years 3 weeks ago #37315 by icetrix
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hi am new to astronomy and just got my first telescope yesterday, got myself a celestron c6n reflector, is this a good starter scope? a bit dissapointed as the weather was soo poor last night and didnt get a chance to get a look and looks as though tonight is going to be the same, anyone know of any good sites explaining sky charts cause i really am lost

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18 years 3 weeks ago #37320 by Kerry Stargazer
Replied by Kerry Stargazer on topic Re: newbie here
Hi icetrix

Welcome to our world, or is that universe. I’m sure the lads will point you to some helpful websites.

Chairman of Kerry Astronomy Club.
My Kung-Fu 's the best (Melvin Frohike X-Files)

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18 years 3 weeks ago #37329 by jhoare
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Hi icetrix,

Once upon a time the 6 inch Newtonian reflector was considered the big gun of the amateur astronomy world. It's certainly an excellent starter scope even today, I hope you really enjoy it. Not being a victim of "aperture fever" I prefer that size and smaller. I'll offer just one piece of advice: read up on eyepieces. The telescope is half the battle, but a good telescope combined with the right eyepiece for the subject you want to view is a true pleasure.

John

John

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18 years 3 weeks ago #37330 by ftodonoghue
Replied by ftodonoghue on topic Re: newbie here
Hi Icetrix

Dont worry too much about star charts. They are just charts with dots where the stars are. Start off by learning a few constellations (groups of stars) like orion, Auriga and Gemini in the Winter sky. and of course the plough. Once you know a few constellations, you can then look at a star chart of that constellation and see what there is to look at with your telescope, such as nebulae, clusters and galaxies.

for a starting point why not check out handbooks produced by members here.
I cannot find the links to them at the moment but I am sure one of the lads will post links (help)

Cheers
Trevor

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18 years 3 weeks ago #37335 by phoenix
Replied by phoenix on topic Re: newbie here
Hi Icetrix,

I had the C6N and the optics are great which is what you would expect from Celestron. Which mount did you get with it CG5 or CG5GT?

Kieran

Kieran
16" ODK (incoming), Mesu Mount 200, APM TMB 80mm, SXV H16, SXV H9
J16 An Carraig Observatory
ancarraigobservatory.co.uk/

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  • SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `tifas_kunena_topics`400μs2.33KB/libraries/vendor/joomla/database/src/Mysqli/MysqliDriver.php:625Copy
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  • SELECT m.*,t.message FROM `tifas_kunena_messages` AS `m` INNER JOIN `tifas_kunena_messages_text` AS `t` ON `m`.`id` = `t`.`mesid` WHERE `m`.`id` = 37315568μs3.78KB/libraries/kunena/src/Tables/TableKunenaMessages.php:216Copy
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  • SELECT a.id FROM `tifas_kunena_messages` AS `a` WHERE `thread` = '37315' AND `a`.`hold` IN (0) ORDER BY a.`time` ASC LIMIT 6200μs920B/libraries/kunena/src/Database/Object/KunenaFinder.php:234Copy
  • SELECT m.*, t.message FROM `tifas_kunena_messages` AS `m` INNER JOIN `tifas_kunena_messages_text` AS `t` ON m.id = t.mesid WHERE `m`.`id` IN (37320,37329,37330,37335)632μs3.83KB/libraries/kunena/src/Forum/Message/KunenaMessageHelper.php:120Copy
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  • SELECT u.name, u.username, u.email, u.block AS blocked, u.registerDate, u.lastvisitDate, ku.*, u.id AS userid FROM `tifas_users` AS `u` LEFT JOIN `tifas_kunena_users` AS `ku` ON `u`.`id` = `ku`.`userid` WHERE `u`.`id` IN (975,699,951,448,707)361μs36.06KB/libraries/kunena/src/User/KunenaUserHelper.php:247Copy
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  • SELECT * FROM `tifas_kunena_ranks`106μs1.8KB/libraries/kunena/src/User/KunenaUser.php:1629Copy
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  • SELECT m.id, mm.hold, m.catid AS category_id, m.thread AS topic_id, SUM(mm.time<m.time) AS before_count, SUM(mm.time>m.time) AS after_count FROM `tifas_kunena_messages` AS `m` INNER JOIN `tifas_kunena_messages` AS `mm` ON `m`.`thread` = `mm`.`thread` WHERE `m`.`id` IN (37320) GROUP BY `m`.`id`,`mm`.`hold`225μs1.13KB/libraries/kunena/src/Forum/Message/KunenaMessageHelper.php:539Copy
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  • SELECT m.id, mm.hold, m.catid AS category_id, m.thread AS topic_id, SUM(mm.time<m.time) AS before_count, SUM(mm.time>m.time) AS after_count FROM `tifas_kunena_messages` AS `m` INNER JOIN `tifas_kunena_messages` AS `mm` ON `m`.`thread` = `mm`.`thread` WHERE `m`.`id` IN (37329) GROUP BY `m`.`id`,`mm`.`hold`287μs1.13KB/libraries/kunena/src/Forum/Message/KunenaMessageHelper.php:539Copy
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  • SELECT m.id, mm.hold, m.catid AS category_id, m.thread AS topic_id, SUM(mm.time<m.time) AS before_count, SUM(mm.time>m.time) AS after_count FROM `tifas_kunena_messages` AS `m` INNER JOIN `tifas_kunena_messages` AS `mm` ON `m`.`thread` = `mm`.`thread` WHERE `m`.`id` IN (37330) GROUP BY `m`.`id`,`mm`.`hold`201μs1.13KB/libraries/kunena/src/Forum/Message/KunenaMessageHelper.php:539Copy
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  • SELECT * FROM `tifas_kunena_announcement` WHERE `published` = 1 AND (`publish_up` = '1000-01-01 00:00:00' OR `publish_up` <= '2025-01-09 02:48:23') AND (`publish_down` ='1000-01-01 00:00:00' OR `publish_down` >= '2025-01-09 02:48:23') ORDER BY `id` DESC LIMIT 1105μs2.05KB/libraries/kunena/src/Forum/Announcement/KunenaAnnouncementHelper.php:145Copy
  • SELECT `params` FROM `tifas_comprofiler_plugin` WHERE `id` = 192μs856BCopy
  • SELECT *, CONCAT_WS( "/", `folder`, `element` ) AS lookup FROM `tifas_comprofiler_plugin` WHERE `published` = 1 AND `viewaccesslevel` IN (1) AND `type` = 'user' ORDER BY `ordering`400μs18.36KBCopy
  • SHOW FULL COLUMNS FROM `tifas_users`348μs2.2KB/libraries/vendor/joomla/database/src/Mysqli/MysqliDriver.php:625Copy
  • SELECT f.* FROM tifas_comprofiler_fields f INNER JOIN tifas_comprofiler_tabs AS t ON (f.tabid = t.tabid) WHERE f.published = 1 ORDER BY t.position, t.ordering, f.ordering613μs4.86KBCopy
  • SELECT `id` FROM `tifas_menu` WHERE ( `link` = 'index.php?option=com_comprofiler&view=userprofile' OR `link` = 'index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=userprofile' OR `link` = 'index.php?option=com_comprofiler' ) AND `published` = 1 AND `access` IN ( 1 ) AND `language` IN ( 'en-GB', '*', '' ) AND `client_id` = 0249μs856BCopy
  • SELECT `id` FROM `tifas_menu` WHERE ( `link` LIKE 'index.php?option=com_comprofiler&view=pluginclass&plugin=cbconnect%' OR `link` LIKE 'index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=pluginclass&plugin=cbconnect%' ) AND `published` = 1 AND `access` IN ( 1 ) AND `language` IN ( 'en-GB', '*', '' ) AND `client_id` = 0415μs840BCopy
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  • SELECT `id` FROM `tifas_menu` WHERE ( `link` LIKE 'index.php?option=com_comprofiler&view=login%' OR `link` LIKE 'index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=login%' ) AND `published` = 1 AND `access` IN ( 1 ) AND `language` IN ( 'en-GB', '*', '' ) AND `client_id` = 0497μs856BCopy
  • SELECT `id` FROM `tifas_menu` WHERE ( `link` LIKE 'index.php?option=com_comprofiler&view=lostpassword%' OR `link` LIKE 'index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=lostpassword%' ) AND `published` = 1 AND `access` IN ( 1 ) AND `language` IN ( 'en-GB', '*', '' ) AND `client_id` = 0284μs856BCopy
  • SELECT `id` FROM `tifas_menu` WHERE ( `link` LIKE 'index.php?option=com_comprofiler&view=registers%' OR `link` LIKE 'index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=registers%' ) AND `published` = 1 AND `access` IN ( 1 ) AND `language` IN ( 'en-GB', '*', '' ) AND `client_id` = 0218μs856BCopy
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  • SELECT c.id FROM tifas_categories AS c WHERE c.access IN (1) AND c.published = 1 AND c.language in ('en-GB','*') AND c.extension = 'com_jevents' ORDER BY c.lft asc169μs904B/components/com_jevents/libraries/dbmodel.php:547Copy
  • SELECT c.id FROM tifas_categories AS c WHERE c.access IN (1) AND c.published = 1 AND c.language in ('en-GB','*') AND c.extension = 'com_jevents' AND ((c.lft>=87 AND c.rgt<=88 )) ORDER BY c.lft asc165μs856B/components/com_jevents/libraries/dbmodel.php:547Copy
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  • SELECT `a`.`id`,`a`.`type`,`a`.`name`,`a`.`clickurl`,`a`.`sticky`,`a`.`cid`,`a`.`description`,`a`.`params`,`a`.`custombannercode`,`a`.`track_impressions`,`cl`.`track_impressions` AS `client_track_impressions` FROM `tifas_banners` AS `a` LEFT JOIN `tifas_banner_clients` AS `cl` ON `cl`.`id` = `a`.`cid` WHERE ( ( (`a`.`state` = 1) AND (`a`.`publish_up` IS NULL OR `a`.`publish_up` <= :nowDate1)) AND (`a`.`publish_down` IS NULL OR `a`.`publish_down` >= :nowDate2)) AND (`a`.`imptotal` = 0 OR `a`.`impmade` < `a`.`imptotal`) AND `a`.`catid` IN (:preparedArray1) ORDER BY `a`.`sticky` DESC, RAND() LIMIT 1433μs2.91KBParams/libraries/src/MVC/Model/BaseDatabaseModel.php:166Copy
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