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Three Doors with one prize
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16 years 11 months ago #60616
by Petermark
Mark.
Anybody who says that Earthshine is reflected Sunshine is talking Moonshine.
Replied by Petermark on topic Re: Three Doors with one prize
One other proof.
“Run the experiment in Reverse†:
Start off with 2 shut doors.
Your chances are 1-in-2 of picking the right door.
Now the host shows you a third OPEN empty door.
Does that change the 1-in-2 initial chance?
Of course not.
“Run the experiment in Reverse†:
Start off with 2 shut doors.
Your chances are 1-in-2 of picking the right door.
Now the host shows you a third OPEN empty door.
Does that change the 1-in-2 initial chance?
Of course not.
Mark.
Anybody who says that Earthshine is reflected Sunshine is talking Moonshine.
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16 years 11 months ago #60618
by johnflannery
Replied by johnflannery on topic Re: Three Doors with one prize
You could always lash the problem into CafeOBJ
It's a little similar to Portia's Casket ... dunno know ?????????????
-- in fopl.mod
set include FOPL-CLAUSE on
mod! PROBLEM{
protecting(BOOL)
-- the basic facts.
pred gc :
pred sc :
pred g :
pred s :
ax [F0] : gc <-> ~(sc) .
ax [F1] : g <-> ~(gc) .
ax [F2] : s <-> (s <-> ~(g)) .
}
open PROBLEM
option reset .
goal(gc) .
flag(auto, on) .
flag(very-verbose,on) .
flag (universal-symmetry,on)
param(max-proofs, 1) .
resolve .
close
eof
** EMPTY CLAUSE__________________________
19:[hyper:18,5,4]
** PROOF ________________________________
4:[unit-del:7] g
5:[] ~(s) | ~(g)
6:[] s | ~(g)
7:[] ~(gc)
18:[hyper:4,6] s
19:[hyper:18,5,4]
** ______________________________________
It's a little similar to Portia's Casket ... dunno know ?????????????
-- in fopl.mod
set include FOPL-CLAUSE on
mod! PROBLEM{
protecting(BOOL)
-- the basic facts.
pred gc :
pred sc :
pred g :
pred s :
ax [F0] : gc <-> ~(sc) .
ax [F1] : g <-> ~(gc) .
ax [F2] : s <-> (s <-> ~(g)) .
}
open PROBLEM
option reset .
goal(gc) .
flag(auto, on) .
flag(very-verbose,on) .
flag (universal-symmetry,on)
param(max-proofs, 1) .
resolve .
close
eof
** EMPTY CLAUSE__________________________
19:[hyper:18,5,4]
** PROOF ________________________________
4:[unit-del:7] g
5:[] ~(s) | ~(g)
6:[] s | ~(g)
7:[] ~(gc)
18:[hyper:4,6] s
19:[hyper:18,5,4]
** ______________________________________
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16 years 11 months ago #60621
by dave_lillis
Dave L. on facebook , See my images in flickr
Chairman. Shannonside Astronomy Club (Limerick)
Carrying around my 20" obsession is going to kill me,
but what a way to go.
+ 12"LX200, MK67, Meade2045, 4"refractor
Replied by dave_lillis on topic Re: Three Doors with one prize
Look at what all this constant rain has reduced you all to :lol:
This is sooooo off topic....
This is sooooo off topic....
Dave L. on facebook , See my images in flickr
Chairman. Shannonside Astronomy Club (Limerick)
Carrying around my 20" obsession is going to kill me,
but what a way to go.
+ 12"LX200, MK67, Meade2045, 4"refractor
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16 years 11 months ago #60624
by pj30something
Paul C
My next scope is going to be a Vixen VMC200L Catadioptric OTA
Replied by pj30something on topic Re: Three Doors with one prize
They appear to have soggy membrane pain.
Paul C
My next scope is going to be a Vixen VMC200L Catadioptric OTA
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16 years 11 months ago #60633
by gus
Replied by gus on topic Re: Three Doors with one prize
You have two strategies: A) Always stay with your original choice; Always change.
A) You have 1/3 chance of winning the prize - trivial.
If you pick the box with the prize initially (1/3) you will obviously lose it when you swap, so to win you must pick an empty box first off. Also, whichever empty box you pick, the host must show you the other empty one which allows you to swap to the box with the prize in it. Ergo, you definitely win if you pick either of the empty boxes, so your chance of winning is 2/3 with this strategy.
I think.
Anyway, there is another radio station which has a competition where callers pick numbers from 1 to 10, one of which has the prize (which to keep it on topic is a week's holiday at an observatory of the winner's choice anywhere in the world, with full unrestricted use of the telescopes and equipment/assistants etc.). If the first caller gets it wrong the chance passes to the next caller (who has obviously heard the wrong guess) and so on. What is the optimal position in the queue to have the best chance of winning the prize (I'm sure there's a tautology in there somewhere )?
A) You have 1/3 chance of winning the prize - trivial.
If you pick the box with the prize initially (1/3) you will obviously lose it when you swap, so to win you must pick an empty box first off. Also, whichever empty box you pick, the host must show you the other empty one which allows you to swap to the box with the prize in it. Ergo, you definitely win if you pick either of the empty boxes, so your chance of winning is 2/3 with this strategy.
I think.
Anyway, there is another radio station which has a competition where callers pick numbers from 1 to 10, one of which has the prize (which to keep it on topic is a week's holiday at an observatory of the winner's choice anywhere in the world, with full unrestricted use of the telescopes and equipment/assistants etc.). If the first caller gets it wrong the chance passes to the next caller (who has obviously heard the wrong guess) and so on. What is the optimal position in the queue to have the best chance of winning the prize (I'm sure there's a tautology in there somewhere )?
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16 years 11 months ago #60634
by jeyjey
Nikon 18x70s / UA Millennium Colorado:
Solarscope SF70 / TV Pronto / AP400QMD Coronado SolarMax40 DS / Bogen 055+3130
APM MC1610 / Tak FC-125 / AP1200GTO Tak Mewlon 250 / AP600EGTO
Replied by jeyjey on topic Re: Three Doors with one prize
Gus --
Well done! That's the first analysis of Monty's Paradox that didn't make my brain hurt. (And it even arrived at the right answer.)
-- Jeff.
Well done! That's the first analysis of Monty's Paradox that didn't make my brain hurt. (And it even arrived at the right answer.)
-- Jeff.
Nikon 18x70s / UA Millennium Colorado:
Solarscope SF70 / TV Pronto / AP400QMD Coronado SolarMax40 DS / Bogen 055+3130
APM MC1610 / Tak FC-125 / AP1200GTO Tak Mewlon 250 / AP600EGTO
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