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16 years 9 months ago #62074 by gbyrne
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Hi,

Just wondering is there a rule of thumb for the max magnitude that you can see from a city location vs a country ( or outside of city) location?

For example Im using the Nexstar 8 se, as far as I can see the Max magnitude that I can see from my location (swords) is about 8.4 and at that (E.g. M101, M51 are mere fuzzies at the eye piece). Should or would I be able to see much more detail if I went to a Dark location? or is it more apature that's needed?

Cheers,
Gary

Equipment:
Celestron NexStar 8 SE
Celestron NexImage
Canon 300D

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16 years 9 months ago #62082 by stevie
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Gary
It doesn't matter what equipment you have, a dark sky is the most important requirement in this game, especially if you want to view faint fuzzies.
The curse of light pollution is killing amateur astronomy.

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16 years 9 months ago #62085 by jeyjey
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Gary --

An 8" SCT should be able to get to mag 10 or 11, even from Swords. That would be with quite a bit of magnification (say 250x - 300x) on a night of above-average seeing. Note also that you can see much dimmer targets higher up in the sky (as you're looking through less atmosphere). But M51 is still going to be a blurry spot (or two).

At a truly dark site, you should be able to reach mag 13+. That will make a huge difference in what you can see. With one to three years of experience (assuming 10 - 20 nights observing a year) you should be able to see the arms of M51 in an 8" (although it still won't look like the pictures).

Perhaps a better yardstick would be the naked-eye limit at the zenith (straight overhead). Swords is likely somewhere between 3 and 4.5. Your average rural site will be 5.5 to 6.5, and a truly dark site will be 7+.

Cheers,
-- Jeff.

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16 years 9 months ago #62087 by Keith g
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Very true ! A dark sky is above all most important. A very good clear night where I am will give me magnitude 13.5 from my backgarden with my 8 inch SCT.

I am really lucky !

Keith..

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16 years 9 months ago #62088 by gbyrne
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Hi,

Thanks for the replies, me thinks Ill have to start getting to a Dark locations now and again so.

Now to find some Dark locations off the M1 :-)

Thanks,
Gary

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Celestron NexImage
Canon 300D

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16 years 9 months ago #62183 by ChrisMcCauley
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We've been lucky recently with some decent viewing but more often than not, it's the weather that ruins things.

My New Year resolution is to get a roll-off built.

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