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16 years 9 months ago #62146 by JohnMurphy
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so , just to be absolutely sure i understand this, the 400d comes with a standard kit lens thats has 18-55mm written on the side. This means that attaching this lens onto the 400d, with a FLM of 1.6 the lens becomes a 2.8 - 88mm lens. Is this correct?
How does this affect the apature size? I would imagine that a 35mm lens at 2.8f, would be a much larger apature than a digital camera lens at 2.8, as the digital camera has a smaller sensor. is there a formula here to work out the f value?


No - an 18-55mm lens becomes the equivalent of a 28.8 - 88mm, this then gives you the zoom effect. Aperature is a different story altogether. The C sensor in the 400D has no effect at all on Aperature.
Aperature (in F numbers) is a function of the size of the opening e.g. 58mm for a typical SLR lens and the focal length of the lens plus a couple of other bits and bobs that I haven't yet researched. Generally speaking the longer the focal length of the lens the bigger the F number will become (same as scopes). In order to get a F2.8 on a 500mm lens the bigger the business end will become, hence the price will increase dramatically.

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16 years 9 months ago #62147 by DaveGrennan
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Sigma 70-300mm APO DG (Macro) F4-5.6.


Yep I have one of these too and highly recommend it as being great value for money. Great for regular photography too.

You just can't beat this for the price.

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16 years 9 months ago #62148 by albertw
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Hi John,

Not quite correct. The 300D and 400D have the same C size sensor. The only difference is the number of pixels on the sensor - which has no effect on the image size - only the quality.


# pixels as well, but the physical size of the sensor is different.
EOS 300D 22.7 x 15.1mm CMOS 342.77 mm^2
EOS 350D/400D 22.2 x 14.8mm CMOS 328.56 mm^2
www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/...igital_SLR/index.asp

There are some posts in the archive from when the 350D came out complaining about the smaller sensor size.

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16 years 9 months ago #62149 by fguihen
Replied by fguihen on topic Re: what lens for a canon 400d

so , just to be absolutely sure i understand this, the 400d comes with a standard kit lens thats has 18-55mm written on the side. This means that attaching this lens onto the 400d, with a FLM of 1.6 the lens becomes a 2.8 - 88mm lens. Is this correct?
How does this affect the apature size? I would imagine that a 35mm lens at 2.8f, would be a much larger apature than a digital camera lens at 2.8, as the digital camera has a smaller sensor. is there a formula here to work out the f value?


No - an 18-55mm lens becomes the equivalent of a 28.8 - 88mm, this then gives you the zoom effect. Aperature is a different story altogether. The C sensor in the 400D has no effect at all on Aperature.
Aperature (in F numbers) is a function of the size of the opening e.g. 58mm for a typical SLR lens and the focal length of the lens plus a couple of other bits and bobs that I haven't yet researched. Generally speaking the longer the focal length of the lens the bigger the F number will become (same as scopes). In order to get a F2.8 on a 500mm lens the bigger the business end will become, hence the price will increase dramatically.


sorry, that 2.8 was a mistype, should have been 28.8mm. i corrected it above.

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16 years 9 months ago #62150 by JohnMurphy
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Albert, thanks for picking me up on that detail.

I believe the 300D scale factor was 1.5 whereas the 350D and all modern C sensors are 1.6, is this correct? (I was speaking in general terms to try to explain the effect of sensor size on image scale and magnification).

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16 years 9 months ago #62152 by JohnMurphy
Replied by JohnMurphy on topic Re: what lens for a canon 400d

Sigma 70-300mm APO DG (Macro) F4-5.6.


Yep I have one of these too and highly recommend it as being great value for money. Great for regular photography too.

You just can't beat this for the price.


Seriously though - go for one of these - you won't be dissapointed. Manual focussing is a little stiff (and you will be focussing manually), but the difference between it and the Canon equivalent 90-300mm EF is quite large, plus if your into Macro photography, there is no better lens in the price bracket.

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