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A layout Question - fixed or fluid?
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19 years 4 weeks ago #18700
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My Home Page - www.bartbusschots.ie
A layout Question - fixed or fluid? was created by voyager
OK, we have some good momentum going on this board ATM so lets try get some more out of that while it lasts!
First thing I need to say on this is that no decision will be made on this for a while yet but I'd still like to get people's opinions and views on this. The chances are you won't care less, that's a very valid view on this particular question and one that is equally as useful to me as a preference one way or the other.
In general there are two ways a site can be designed when it comes to scaling. There is the fixed approach and the fluid approach. Both have advantages and dissadvantages, question is, do the users of this site have a preference for one over the other.
Fixed layouts:
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The content of the site has a fixed width. It is always the same. As you re-size the browser window the content does not get bigger or smaller, it stays the same size and "white space" appears somewhere when the window is bigger than the fixed width (usually equally spaced on both sides of the content), when the window is re-sized to be smaller than the fixed width scroll bars appear.
This approach has the advantage of making it easier to add shiney graphics to the site and it means everyone sees basically the same thing regardless of their monitor resolution or window size.
Here are some exampels of fixed latouts:
1) My Home page: www.minds.nuim.ie/~voyager (not visible on the night of 22-23 Nov 2005 because of a powercut in NUIM)
2) The Center for the study of Historic Irish Houses and estates: www.historicirishhouses.ie/home.php
3) The NUIM student bulletin board system: www.mikadosoc.ie
4) Mythical Ireland: www.mythicalireland.com/
"Fluid" layouts:
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On a fluid layout the content takes up all available space and grows and shrinks as the page is re-sized. This makes it more difficult to include fancy graphics, means everyone sees the site a little differently depending on their resolution and screen-size and inevitably breaks down at some point when the screen is re-sized too small. The advantage is that all the available screen 'realestate' is used.
Here are some examples of fluid layouts:
1) The current IFAS Home page: www.irishastronomy.org
2) RedLetterDayCards: redletterdaycards.com/home.php
3) Astronomy Ireland: www.astronomy.ie/ (well sorta, this site is actually a strange hybrid design that has a fluid header but a fixed width on the actual main content)
When you start lookign you'll actually find that the majority of sites are fixed width because it makes the design easier and gives you more options generally. Having said that, there are some great fluid sites out there too.
Anyhow, opinions please!
Bart.
First thing I need to say on this is that no decision will be made on this for a while yet but I'd still like to get people's opinions and views on this. The chances are you won't care less, that's a very valid view on this particular question and one that is equally as useful to me as a preference one way or the other.
In general there are two ways a site can be designed when it comes to scaling. There is the fixed approach and the fluid approach. Both have advantages and dissadvantages, question is, do the users of this site have a preference for one over the other.
Fixed layouts:
=========
The content of the site has a fixed width. It is always the same. As you re-size the browser window the content does not get bigger or smaller, it stays the same size and "white space" appears somewhere when the window is bigger than the fixed width (usually equally spaced on both sides of the content), when the window is re-sized to be smaller than the fixed width scroll bars appear.
This approach has the advantage of making it easier to add shiney graphics to the site and it means everyone sees basically the same thing regardless of their monitor resolution or window size.
Here are some exampels of fixed latouts:
1) My Home page: www.minds.nuim.ie/~voyager (not visible on the night of 22-23 Nov 2005 because of a powercut in NUIM)
2) The Center for the study of Historic Irish Houses and estates: www.historicirishhouses.ie/home.php
3) The NUIM student bulletin board system: www.mikadosoc.ie
4) Mythical Ireland: www.mythicalireland.com/
"Fluid" layouts:
==========
On a fluid layout the content takes up all available space and grows and shrinks as the page is re-sized. This makes it more difficult to include fancy graphics, means everyone sees the site a little differently depending on their resolution and screen-size and inevitably breaks down at some point when the screen is re-sized too small. The advantage is that all the available screen 'realestate' is used.
Here are some examples of fluid layouts:
1) The current IFAS Home page: www.irishastronomy.org
2) RedLetterDayCards: redletterdaycards.com/home.php
3) Astronomy Ireland: www.astronomy.ie/ (well sorta, this site is actually a strange hybrid design that has a fluid header but a fixed width on the actual main content)
When you start lookign you'll actually find that the majority of sites are fixed width because it makes the design easier and gives you more options generally. Having said that, there are some great fluid sites out there too.
Anyhow, opinions please!
Bart.
My Home Page - www.bartbusschots.ie
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19 years 4 weeks ago #18705
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Cheers
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Replied by ftodonoghue on topic Re: A layout Question - fixed or fluid?
Hi TBH
To be honest, I dont think it matters to most users, although I understand the reasoning and logic for chosing one over another. I think the key point is that the site is easy to navigate, crisp, clean, functional and user friendly to all different operating systems, resolutions, and monitor sizes. If you choose a fixed site will you not be limiting the width of site to 640 or 800 px or something like that. If this is sufficient, then fixedseems like an easier option
To be honest, I dont think it matters to most users, although I understand the reasoning and logic for chosing one over another. I think the key point is that the site is easy to navigate, crisp, clean, functional and user friendly to all different operating systems, resolutions, and monitor sizes. If you choose a fixed site will you not be limiting the width of site to 640 or 800 px or something like that. If this is sufficient, then fixedseems like an easier option
Cheers
Trevor
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19 years 4 weeks ago #18707
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Replied by michaeloconnell on topic Re: A layout Question - fixed or fluid?
No major preference here...
A fluid width would cause a problem if someone posted a large picture on the forum...the text would shrink to nothing. On a fixed width, you can still see the text, but would need to scroll a little to take in the picture, in the ecent that it is really big.
Both have slight pros and cons but I'm not really swung either way.
A fluid width would cause a problem if someone posted a large picture on the forum...the text would shrink to nothing. On a fixed width, you can still see the text, but would need to scroll a little to take in the picture, in the ecent that it is really big.
Both have slight pros and cons but I'm not really swung either way.
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19 years 4 weeks ago #18709
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Replied by ctr on topic Re: A layout Question - fixed or fluid?
I like fluid over fixed.
I just think that in the examples you gave it was more pleasing to the eye.
I just think that in the examples you gave it was more pleasing to the eye.
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19 years 4 weeks ago #18712
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Replied by michaeloconnell on topic Re: A layout Question - fixed or fluid?
Fluid might be a bit of a pain for people with small monitors though. Personally, it ain't a problem for me with my 19" screen, but perhaps for others?? OTOH, monitors are getting cheaper as time goes by so mabey it's not as much of a concern as it might have been a few years ago...
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19 years 4 weeks ago #18715
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Leo @ Lionsden
Perhap because light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Replied by lionsden on topic Re: A layout Question - fixed or fluid?
Fluid.
Fixed means you will have to limit the width of the page so that users with low resolution will be able to see it all, thus giving you less space to fit what you need onto a page. This also means users with high resolution (like me!) end up with lots of blank space on either side of the screen. I prefer a full screen.
Fixed means you will have to limit the width of the page so that users with low resolution will be able to see it all, thus giving you less space to fit what you need onto a page. This also means users with high resolution (like me!) end up with lots of blank space on either side of the screen. I prefer a full screen.
Leo @ Lionsden
Perhap because light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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