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19 years 2 months ago #16801
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On the contrary, Monsignor Balducci was a friend and advisor to the last Pope regarding matters which included the ET presence and UFOs. You can check this out for yourself. He has done many interviews for both television and other publications internationally. Unfortunately, none of these interviews have been picked up by main stream TV and press. Although he was interviewed five times on this subject on Italian national television. So, its not a situation that the Vatican knows more about this reality than us citizens, its a situation that the political processes that influence news media coverage of the UFO phenomenon. Its not about media conspiracy in the simplistic sense of that word, it's media complicity meaning that news organisations sometimes cooperate with government authorities to deceive the public about the nature and scope of the UFO phenomenon.. Their is an excellent book on the whole process by a science journalist Terry Hansen called "the Missing Times".
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19 years 2 months ago #16805
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I was only kidding, I see what they're trying to do.
Its better to be prepared if they do actually find something.....
Do you know of any examples of some of these cover ups or supressed news which never made it to the papers or TV.
Its better to be prepared if they do actually find something.....
Do you know of any examples of some of these cover ups or supressed news which never made it to the papers or TV.
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19 years 2 months ago #16863
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Dave,
Its no surprise that major incidents never get into the major newspapers but only minor papers that don’t really carry weight on the international scene. If it is not published in the Irish Times or the Irish Independent then it is not important. As I mentioned in a previous post its nothing to do with media conspiracy but media complicity from authorities. I spoke to Dick Almstrom Science Editor of the Irish Times regarding a number of ariel incidents this year over Irish airspace that were multiply witnessed by pilots, ATC and other aircraft. He told me that the policy of the Irish Times is not to report UFO incidents.
Last year an Aer Lingus 737-400 series aircraft serial EI BXD was reportedly damaged after a collision with a UFO over Meath. Also witnessed by a British Midland aircraft crew refs: UPRI 2005.
In April 2005, 7 aircraft in the air witnessed a large triangular shaped craft 600 feet in size at 17,000 feet height over County Meath. ATC had it recorded and all pilots were “told to be quiet†but a crew broke the silence because the crew were witnessing close up the whole craft. The craft had accompanying colour lights moving in unison.
On 30th June 2005, ATC Dublin picked up eleven UFOs. An aircraft on route to Dublin over the Irish sea was harassed by a highly agile, brightly illuminated craft. It was also picked up by UK radar systems. The Irish pilots required help, so an RAF jet came by at a safe distance. The RAF aircraft was no match for the other craft’s movement and speed. The RAF aircraft then escorted the Irish aircraft to a UK airport while the UFO was still with them. On landing the Irish pilots were told by certain people not to say a word what happened. Because pilots are told to shut up, no written records are in pilot’s logs their only recourse is to contact newspapers or organisations that will process the information.
All these incidents, that are usually buried, is usually left to the initiative of the pilot who would approach NARCAP that specialises in pilot reports of UFO incidents or in the Irish cases UPRI. These are non-governmental organisations you don’t hear about in your newspapers. If you want full details of these incidents I would be more than happy to send you the full reports.
I can also understand such difficulties of integrating this reality within our society, it would be seen as a problem for national security for most countries.
What is missing from the news is often far more revealing and significant than what gets reported.
Eamonn A
Its no surprise that major incidents never get into the major newspapers but only minor papers that don’t really carry weight on the international scene. If it is not published in the Irish Times or the Irish Independent then it is not important. As I mentioned in a previous post its nothing to do with media conspiracy but media complicity from authorities. I spoke to Dick Almstrom Science Editor of the Irish Times regarding a number of ariel incidents this year over Irish airspace that were multiply witnessed by pilots, ATC and other aircraft. He told me that the policy of the Irish Times is not to report UFO incidents.
Last year an Aer Lingus 737-400 series aircraft serial EI BXD was reportedly damaged after a collision with a UFO over Meath. Also witnessed by a British Midland aircraft crew refs: UPRI 2005.
In April 2005, 7 aircraft in the air witnessed a large triangular shaped craft 600 feet in size at 17,000 feet height over County Meath. ATC had it recorded and all pilots were “told to be quiet†but a crew broke the silence because the crew were witnessing close up the whole craft. The craft had accompanying colour lights moving in unison.
On 30th June 2005, ATC Dublin picked up eleven UFOs. An aircraft on route to Dublin over the Irish sea was harassed by a highly agile, brightly illuminated craft. It was also picked up by UK radar systems. The Irish pilots required help, so an RAF jet came by at a safe distance. The RAF aircraft was no match for the other craft’s movement and speed. The RAF aircraft then escorted the Irish aircraft to a UK airport while the UFO was still with them. On landing the Irish pilots were told by certain people not to say a word what happened. Because pilots are told to shut up, no written records are in pilot’s logs their only recourse is to contact newspapers or organisations that will process the information.
All these incidents, that are usually buried, is usually left to the initiative of the pilot who would approach NARCAP that specialises in pilot reports of UFO incidents or in the Irish cases UPRI. These are non-governmental organisations you don’t hear about in your newspapers. If you want full details of these incidents I would be more than happy to send you the full reports.
I can also understand such difficulties of integrating this reality within our society, it would be seen as a problem for national security for most countries.
What is missing from the news is often far more revealing and significant than what gets reported.
Eamonn A
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19 years 2 months ago #16865
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Very interesting Eamon,
This triangular "object" keeps popping up every so often in UFO/UAP reports. You may be privvy to more info than you document, but is this AerLingus UAP similar to www.nidsci.org/news/blacktriangle_aug2002.php
Another site of interest is www.freedomofinfo.org
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This triangular "object" keeps popping up every so often in UFO/UAP reports. You may be privvy to more info than you document, but is this AerLingus UAP similar to www.nidsci.org/news/blacktriangle_aug2002.php
Another site of interest is www.freedomofinfo.org
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19 years 2 months ago #16866
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usually the black triangular aircraft is associated with project aurora, a stealth aircraft with a scramjet engine seeing flying in the area of california or off its coast. from a discovery program i saw about it, it has been detected by setting off the earthquake detectors in the area at a low level of course.
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Very interesting Eamon,
This triangular "object" keeps popping up every so often in UFO/UAP reports. You may be privvy to more info than you document, but is this AerLingus UAP similar to www.nidsci.org/news/blacktriangle_aug2002.php
Another site of interest is www.freedomofinfo.org
Johnno
usually the black triangular aircraft is associated with project aurora, a stealth aircraft with a scramjet engine seeing flying in the area of california or off its coast. from a discovery program i saw about it, it has been detected by setting off the earthquake detectors in the area at a low level of course.
stephen.
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19 years 2 months ago #16867
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Johnno,
The Flying Triangle FT version, in NIDS, as it is known appears to be the same version as multiple witnessed by many pilots this year entering Irish airspace. The FTs usually have two sizes. One about twice the size of a jumbo jet the other size about 3 times. I think we had the latter in Irish airspace this year. FTs are usually accompanied by light balls of different colours. This could be so to speak the exhaust effects emanating from the propulsion system based on some hydromagnetodynamic system. But apparently some other types of light balls have an inherent connection with the craft ie. could be reconnaisance probes.
Their have been studies done based on video footage and many observers. One of the best examples is the Belgiam FT sightings of 1989/90. Their were many videos taken, 13,000 witnesses, radar tracked by 3 stations including military,it out manoevered F16 Belgium jets at phenomenal speeds even though they had lock on within there radar. The ministry of defence supplied full details to a NGO organisation SOBEBS which came out with a report in 1990.
I do have records going back to 1994 in Ireland where the first sighting was in the SW of Ireland.
Their is an interesting NIDS report "Investigation of the Flying Triangle Enigma," August 2004.
Have you check out in the second website www.freedomofinfo.org in the science section "Science and the failure to investigate UAP"?
Eamonn A
The Flying Triangle FT version, in NIDS, as it is known appears to be the same version as multiple witnessed by many pilots this year entering Irish airspace. The FTs usually have two sizes. One about twice the size of a jumbo jet the other size about 3 times. I think we had the latter in Irish airspace this year. FTs are usually accompanied by light balls of different colours. This could be so to speak the exhaust effects emanating from the propulsion system based on some hydromagnetodynamic system. But apparently some other types of light balls have an inherent connection with the craft ie. could be reconnaisance probes.
Their have been studies done based on video footage and many observers. One of the best examples is the Belgiam FT sightings of 1989/90. Their were many videos taken, 13,000 witnesses, radar tracked by 3 stations including military,it out manoevered F16 Belgium jets at phenomenal speeds even though they had lock on within there radar. The ministry of defence supplied full details to a NGO organisation SOBEBS which came out with a report in 1990.
I do have records going back to 1994 in Ireland where the first sighting was in the SW of Ireland.
Their is an interesting NIDS report "Investigation of the Flying Triangle Enigma," August 2004.
Have you check out in the second website www.freedomofinfo.org in the science section "Science and the failure to investigate UAP"?
Eamonn A
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