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Total Solar Eclipse 2008 plans?

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17 years 9 months ago #38716 by DaveGrennan
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Hmm, looking at flying from Moscow to Novosibirisk looks a bit more daunting. It doesn;t look like aeroflot fly there at least around that time of year. A lot of the package tours seems to involve the trans siberian railway!

I did however find this interesting write up on the weather prospects for novosibirisk which look favourable. However please note this was on the site of a company selling trips, so maybe take with a grain of salt.

Novosibirsk Eclipse Day Weather


by Eclipse Meteorologist Jay Anderson


Russia’s fourth-largest city provides ready access to the eclipse track and to the most favourable area for viewing outside of China. Novosibirsk lies within a small region of south central Siberia that has a notable sunny microclimate. Lying in the midst of the world’s largest landmass, the city is well-removed from oceanic moisture sources. The immense Altai Mountains and the Gobi Desert to the south block monsoon flows that invade Asia at this time of year.

Southern Siberia experiences the same types of weather systems typical of the northern Great Plains, with periodic low-pressure disturbances and generous thunderstorms. Temperatures are pleasantly warm and humidities typically low. Cooling associated with the eclipse will tend to dissipate smaller cloud elements and the higher angle of the Sun when compared to Chinese locations will make viewing more certain in a partly-cloudy sky.

Regards and Clear Skies,

Dave.
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17 years 9 months ago #38718 by ayiomamitis
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Now getting from Moscow to Novosibirisk is another matter.

(1) Aeroflot ... 305 euro
(2) Siberia .... 229 euro

I'd say it could be done for under €1000 a head?

From Athens, it seems something like around 800 euro and this includes everything (flights, visa, insurance and accomodation).

Anthony Ayiomamitis
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17 years 9 months ago #38720 by eclipsedan
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Jay Anderson is a completely sound source:

From his website home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~jander/ , which is well worth a look!

Overview
For most eclipses, weather prospects offer several choices: the 2006 total eclipse had a very promising climatology in Saharan Africa, Egypt, and southern Turkey for instance. This 2008 eclipse is more limiting in that the weather tends to be rather dismal along the majority of the track, even though the August 1 date comes at the peak of summer and summer sunshine. It is not until the path reaches southern Russian and northern China that the prospects for sunshine rise to values comparable to the last total eclipse.

China, near the cities of Hami and Jiuquan, has the best prospects - likely between 70 and 80% - while southern Siberia, between Novosibirsk and the Mongolian border, offers about a 60% gamble. Other locations tempt for their stunning scenery or travel off the beaten path, but eclipse-seekers in these areas will have to compromise on the weather prospects.



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Siberia
As the path of the lunar shadow moves southward across central Russia, it encounters a moist landscape of rivers, bogs and small lakes. The surface provides a ready supply of moisture to be incorporated into passing weather systems. Most of these weather systems track north of the 60th parallel, but their associated frontal systems can sweep much farther south, even into China. The weather in the north has a very different character than that in the south. Above the 60th parallel, large weather systems with extensive mid- and upper-level cloud shields and steady precipitation are a common feature of the mid-summer months. Farther south, nearer to Novosibirsk, the weather systems become more convective in nature, with showers and thundershowers bringing the majority of the rainfall.

There is not a clear-cut distinction between the northern and southern cloud climates, but instead a gradual transition as latitudes decline. In the satellite data, mean cloudiness diminishes steadily, from 65% along the north coast near Nadym to 47% near Barnaul (Figure 1). South of Barnaul cloud cover increases by nearly 10% over the rugged Altay Mountains that mark the boundary between Russia and China. Surface observations show the percent of possible sunshine climbing from a mediocre 35% at Salekhard to a more promising 54% at Novosibirsk and 57% at Barnaul.

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17 years 9 months ago #38721 by ayiomamitis
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Novosibirsk Eclipse Day Weather


by Eclipse Meteorologist Jay Anderson

Anderson's reports are standard for each and every eclipse ... in fact, Espenak uses and refers to them as well.

I would not be worried in the slightest with Jay Anderson. I may be mistaken but I think he also writes up such eclipse reports for S&T.

Anthony Ayiomamitis
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17 years 9 months ago #38728 by DaveGrennan
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Anderson's reports are standard for each and every eclipse


Ahh good, a sound source so! Noted!

Hmm having spent the evening looking at all the weather prospects and the potential difficulty getting there. I'd have to say, waiting until 2017 looks a lot more appealing.

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Dave.
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17 years 9 months ago #38733 by eclipsedan
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Hami, China looks a good deal though. 75% and a trip to the Olympics after the eclipse if you wish.

True it's much more difficult (and expensive) than Novosibirsk but I much prefer those odds!


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