'Are UFOs Real?'

Eamonn, I've just read this paper in full. A couple of points which occured to me are;

Their is a primary assumption that extraterrestrial intelligent actually exists. Of course without this this paper is pointless.

On pp24 (last paragraph he deals with something which crossed my mind right throughtout the paper. The possibility that the faraday cages are not filtering all of the possible output from the experimentation process or that some other classical cause or even other non-classical phenomenon is being observed. I do not accept his explaination that more rigourous experimentation rules this out.

Secondly. If one accepts that quantum entaglement is responsible for the observed results and that this phenomenon is nonlocal. The why carry out the experiments at such short distances, i.e. a couple of centimetres or at most a metre or two apart. Surely if his postulation that this process can be applied over vast distances of space, then surely if should at the very least be possible to see the same results with control gorups located on different sides of this planet?

Thirdly, have any of these experiments which he proposes actually been carried out?

Lastly, even if quantum entaglement and it's ability to duplicate neurological patterns were to be proved definitively (and it seems this is at best a very long shot). It seems unlikely to me that this could be used to ellicit 'meaningful' communication between two entities which are even local nevermind nonlocal individuals.

A very interesting read all the same, thanks for posting it.

Thaheld obviously has not read 'A New Science of Life' by the Cambidge biologist Rupert Sheldrake, whose research demonstrated that all life forms (whether anaimate or inanimate) are interconnected.
Sheldrake carried out numerous experiments that documented the transmission of information between organisms across distances in time and space. He called this the theory of morphic resonance. He conceived of this as a kind of memory field or template that is present in nature, and which indicates that the universe is an unbroken whole.

Sheldrake's successful experiments with dogs at a distance of miles in 'A Dog that seems to know when his owner is coming home: videotaped experiments and observations' demonstrates the confirmation of telepathy. Although scientists have conducted much research on person-to-person telepathy (Radin, 1997, JSSE), there also has been research on person-to-animal and animal-to-animal
telepathy (Sheldrake, 1999a, JSSE).

If it turns out that telepathic communication does indeeed occur among non human animals, then this would imply a biological and evolutionary origin for person-to-person telepathy and would enable this to be normal, at least in the sense that it is biological and has an evolutionary history.

Regarding non linear concepts from the above, indicates that within a non local reality that everylife form is conscious and awake. Consciousness is not bound by space or time. So the total minds in the universe is one, which means the individualisation of humans or Extraterrestrial Intelligent individualisation is within mind space and time.

Mind therefore is a singularity, its non local and divisible reality. So you can have unique individuals that share the oneness of the mind.

Humans have not developed consciousness to the degree of a wide spectrum of reality to apply constructive methods to communicate with ETs if they exist. There may be ETs that may have this ability, but it would be futile for them to communicate with us.

Eamonn A

Mind therefore is a singularity

Actually that is something I could accept, almost from a spiritual point of view rather than from hard science. It is something that sits with my own 'faith'. However making practical use of this seems pretty fruitless. If evolution has caused us to lose sight of this ability then I would doubt that there is anything we can do to re-harness this ability. Surely if it's something we have lost in the evolutionary past then the evolutionarly future is not likely to give it back to us?

I fully admit that I havent read Sheldrake's work. However I think there are far more simplistic explanations for the 'Dog knowing when its owner is coming home' effect which relate to the animal's ability to recognise the time of day and being used to its owner coming home at that time.

I have long been aware of the ability of young children to experience a reality which is very different from our own. An undeveloped mind such as a child or an animal is uncluttered with such thoughts and would be more able to make use of such abilities.

However the 'hard nosed scientist' still bites me back and tells me that unless we can get some good science to back up people like Thaheld then faith is really where it stays for the moment.

I am convinced that our comprehension of reality is really in it's infancy and unless we explore our 'hunches' then thats where we will stay. Although I'm not convinced of much of the work presented to date. There is also a similar lack of hard science to disprove any of this. My 'suspicion' isthe ultimate 'truth' is much deeper than our puny minds could possibly comprehend at present and likely for some considerable time to come.

For this reason (our inability to make use of the big picture), I think SETI is probably still our best chance of success to detect ET. My own 'feeling' is that SETI will never succeed. For one of two possible reasons. Either ET does not exist (in a form than can be communicated with) or that ET lives so far away that we would never be able to contact it anyway. Either case being true amounts to the same thing that ET would be irrelevent to us. Maybe one day we will be smart enough to realise how easy it was all along. Until then we keep our ears open.

I agree with your last points. However, I believe SETI is flawed based on SETI incrementalism which constraints any possible remote radio detection. This also applies to other methods within OSETI like laser communications which is also bounded by incrementalism. The concept is flawed from the beginning because the basis was derived from a mechanistic approach within science and leaving out its holistic approach from the equation. The key I believe to success of ET detection is the combination of both science and the experiential.

Every higher, intelligent life form is potentially capable of having experiences along their journey which naturally develop and which appear at various points for each individual; this includes humans and other higher life forms which may have evolved on other planets. The only prerequisite is to be able to be aware of awareness itself. If you are aware of awareness, then you can be aware of awareness in its non local, unbounded form. It is likely that the study of consciousness, in all of its aspects and manifestations, will be the great focus of study and science in the coming centuries. Consciousness is the integrating thread, the highest common denominator and the foundation for communications and a wider spectrum of reality.

The ability to “see,” via non local mind, events, places, people regardless of space and time; by accessing non local mind, you can “see” any place in any point in time (past, present, or future).
By definition, non local mind is not bound by space and time. Once this is understood, and one becomes proficient at accessing the aspect of one's consciousness which is non local, then the extraordinary slowly becomes routine, and all things are possible.

The future may develop technology assisted consciousness or consciousness assisted technology as a means of a wider communication band within science for future communications with Extraterrestrial Intelligence.

Eamonn A

Eamonn & Dave, very interesting viewpoints indeed!
Coincidently I have just finished reading a book by Rupert Sheldrake two weeks ago, entitled, “The Sense of Being Stared At and Other Aspects of the Extended Mind”. A very engrossing book indeed in which a great deal of rigorous scientific experimentation and statistical analysis is presented that reveals evidence for events (telepathy, premonitions and communications by non local means).
This research has been going on for many years with other scientists that have emulated Sheldrake’s results. The potential of such research relating to Morphic Resonance / Fields (if accepted by the scientific community) will be profound indeed.
I think Dr. Sheldrake is deeply interested in the question of possible ET biodiversity, he was asked a question regarding this matter...
Do you suspect that extraterrestrial life will resemble life on earth due to the effects of Morphic fields?
“I think Morphic resonance should link life here to similar forms of life on other planets. So if there are forms of life on other planets that resemble mammals, insects, algae, and other life forms on this planet, I would expect them to interact by Morphic resonance. However, there is no reason to assume that forms of life on other planets would closely resemble life on this planet, and they may therefore not be influenced by Morphic resonance, which always depends on similarity.
Even on this planet, I would not expect Morphic resonance from algae to have much effect on the behaviour of primates because they are so different. We know nothing about the diversity of life on other planets, but my expectation is that there might well be earth-like planets throughout the universe, where Morphic resonance from earth, and to earth, plays a role in the evolutionary process. But there may well be planets with quite different ecosystems, and quite different forms of life with which we would not be resonating”.
www.sheldrake.org/faq/answers.html

I am just in the middle of reading a book by the late David Bohm entitled “Wholeness and the Implicate Order”. Bohm was a quantum physicist of high renown that caused quite a stir in the scientific community. This book relates to his theories of “wholeness”, “explicate” and “implicate” order.
Quote:
“In the enfolded [or Implicate] order, space and time are no longer the dominant factors determining the relationships of dependence or independence of different elements. Rather, an entirely different sort of basic connection of elements is possible, from which our ordinary notions of space and time, along with those of separately existent material particles, are abstracted as forms derived from the deeper order”.
david-bohm.net/

The big questions of… Is there possible ET life elsewhere in the universe? Is ETI here (or has been here)? And / or is their technological manifestations here? How do we communicate? And other such questions are ones certainly for debate and scientific investigation. So far the best endeavours (in my opinion) relating to these questions are through SETV, SETA and SETI. The requirement of proof that the western world demands will PERHAPS come through the work of these people.
The experiential aspect relating to non-local communication and accessing of information (one example is remote viewing, there are others) is highly important and most worthy of further scientific investigation. If one is curious then one should look at the “The Institute of Noetic Sciences” www.noetic.org/index.cfm which was set-up by astronaut Edgar Mitchell to explore the frontiers of human consciousness. In addition one should look at the pioneering work of “The Farsight Institute” www.farsight.org/ relating to “Scientific Remote Viewing” in which they investigated as one of their projects the possibility of extraterrestrial communication by non-local means.
Tens of thousands of people have gone through the gates of the “Monroe Institute” www.monroeinstitute.com/ in the exploration of human consciousness using a safe system of audio sound patterns (Hemi-Sync) to explore awareness expansion and non-locality.
What’s interesting about this aspect of accessing non-local mind from my point of view is that virtually anybody can do this, there is information readily accessible (most free), one can experience this reality for himself or herself if one is curious.

Recommended books:
“Wholeness and the Implicate Order” by David Bohm (ISBN-13: 978-0415289795)
“The Sense of Being Stared At and Other Aspects of the Extended Mind” by Rupert Sheldrake
(ISBN-13: 978-0099441533)
“The Holographic Universe” by Michael Talbot (ISBN-13: 978-0586091715)


Clear skies
Mike

Hi Eamonn
Not sure if you are aware of this but researchers at Leeds University have been taking a second look at archival gamma-ray telescope data to see if alien signals from space may have been missed!
So far they have studied more than 2000 hours of data searching for unusual images that could previously been over-looked because the analysis software previously used on the data normally rejects anything that it doesn’t expect.
They found images of light flashes that appear to originate from areas around stars similar to the sun. No Signals that could indicate the existence of intelligent life on extra solar planets have been found, but the team intends to keep looking using data from a telescope array in Arizona that can scan much larger areas of space. The new system is called “VERITAS”, the “Very Energetic Radiation Imaging Telescope Array System”, (Ireland has collaborated on this project), a major new ground-based gamma-ray observatory, designed to provide an in-depth examination of the universe.
Sources:
“Interactions” newspaper of the institute of Physics, May 2007 page 3
www.ast.leeds.ac.uk/research/tev.html
www.physorg.com/news97176436.html

Clear skies
Mike