'Are UFOs Real?'

Al
I can understand your viewpoint; it is indeed frustrating not to have a substantial quantity of actual extraterrestrial material whether it is biological, mineral or synthetic for dissemination to study across many public academic institutions. I am sure as a person with scientific credentials you would welcome such research not only out of scientific curiosity but also as an obligation to the general public to offer answers to one of the biggest questions we can ask, perhaps that day will come for such open research, who knows for sure.

Al, with respect I can meet you half way on your last post, perhaps it is a mixture of A and B. so between half truths, damn lies and simply misinterpretation we still have that element of core truth about the reality of non-terrestrial people and their technology here on Earth from these high calibre people that have actually worked on these projects, next step is to make this physical evidence available, there has been some inroads made in this regard but the timeframe is difficult to determine for full disclosure in which to carry out what I mentioned in the first paragraph above.

I would tend not to use the word “conspiracy” a truer reflection of the last 60 years relating to the UFO situation would be “complicity” and at all levels. This stems from the days of projects “Sign”, “Grudge” and “Bluebook”, which shows that these projects were mere shop-fronts to keep the general public happy and at the same time to debunk and ridicule those people that have reported UFOs and Possibly interacted with their occupants on occasions. Curiously 23% (I think this figure is correct) of bluebooks investigations are classified “Unknowns”.

There is clear evidence of this continuing complicity today, as an example just pick up any daily newspaper that happens to be running a UFO story, you’ll soon see very quickly how your intelligence is insulted by the content, coupled with the LGM statement and take me to your leader thrown in just for good measure just adds to the stifling of the subject!

Clear skies (I hope soon)
Mike

One question that has always stuck in my mind about UFOs, and especially abductions, with a population of more than 250 million, out of a world population of 6 billion, why are most abductions in the US?

With respective populations of more than 1.3 billion and more than 1 billion, shouldn't the peoples of China and India have more?

Just a thought.

Paul

because instead of aliens abducting them, they are back in the stone ages being abducted by demons or else because the cow is sacred in india they don't mutilate any there as there would be uproar that some sacred is dead where as in america no one would give a damn.

Al
I can understand your viewpoint; it is indeed frustrating not to have a substantial quantity of actual extraterrestrial material whether it is biological, mineral or synthetic for dissemination to study across many public academic institutions. I am sure as a person with scientific credentials you would welcome such research not only out of scientific curiosity but also as an obligation to the general public to offer answers to one of the biggest questions we can ask, perhaps that day will come for such open research, who knows for sure.

Al, with respect I can meet you half way on your last post, perhaps it is a mixture of A and B. so between half truths, damn lies and simply misinterpretation we still have that element of core truth about the reality of non-terrestrial people and their technology here on Earth from these high calibre people that have actually worked on these projects, next step is to make this physical evidence available, there has been some inroads made in this regard but the timeframe is difficult to determine for full disclosure in which to carry out what I mentioned in the first paragraph above.

I would tend not to use the word “conspiracy” a truer reflection of the last 60 years relating to the UFO situation would be “complicity” and at all levels. This stems from the days of projects “Sign”, “Grudge” and “Bluebook”, which shows that these projects were mere shop-fronts to keep the general public happy and at the same time to debunk and ridicule those people that have reported UFOs and Possibly interacted with their occupants on occasions. Curiously 23% (I think this figure is correct) of bluebooks investigations are classified “Unknowns”.

There is clear evidence of this continuing complicity today, as an example just pick up any daily newspaper that happens to be running a UFO story, you’ll soon see very quickly how your intelligence is insulted by the content, coupled with the LGM statement and take me to your leader thrown in just for good measure just adds to the stifling of the subject!

Clear skies (I hope soon)
Mike

just because it is unknown does not imply that it belongs to LGMs joy riding through our atmosphere, gang probing american country folk and cutting up their cattle for fun. there are many murders that go unsolved yet that does not mean they were killed by men from mars.

Hi Stephen
Thank you for your viewpoints and input, I ask respectfully based on your viewpoints and from quoting me word for word from my last post where did I imply that..
“just because it is unknown does not imply that it belongs to LGMs” joy riding through our atmosphere” or
“gang probing american country folk and cutting up their cattle for fun”, or
“there are many murders that go unsolved yet that does not mean they were killed by men from mars”

If I have made any of these direct verbatim statements I will apologize to you. In fact people do give a damn and it is not only in America that causes great concern about “Cattle mutilation” and indeed in a wide variety of other animal species happening across Mexico, Panama, Puerto Rico, Brazil, England, France, Germany, Sweden, Australia, Japan, Argentina, the Canary Islands, Canada, etc, and over a time period of decades. What is it all about, I don’t know, but based on available research by many people including scientists of varying disciplines it is a definite physical and highly unusual phenomenon. I would like to suggest that you look the investigative work and research of Professor Helmut Lammer, Professor John Mack and Budd Hopkins relating to the Human aspect of this phenomenon, but in addition to this, the work of Linda Moulton Howe and indeed to Dr. G. E. Onet of the National Institute for Discovery Science relating to animal mutilations. I had the opportunity to meet investigator David Cayton at a conference last year; his presentation of animal mutilations from the UK was very disturbing and puzzling to say the least. While it may be easy to mock this area of research we must remember that it affects real people, there are people in great distress because it has directly affected their livelihoods and indeed to those people pets that have ended up mutilated and no one has given them a firm answer after all this time, not even the scientists, yet the phenomenon still continues, is it all related to something closer to home? Has it a rational / natural explanation or are we truly dealing with something completely foreign to us? Until then for those of us that do not wish to look at such research there is always the daily Tabloids running the usual LGM, take me to your leader type stories.

www.nidsci.org/articles/animal2.php
www.nidsci.org/articles/surveyreport.php
www.nidsci.org/pdf/newmexico.pdf
www.johnemackinstitute.org/center/center_news.asp?id=227
www.karlaturner.org/articles/ufoearea.com_abduction_lammer.html

clear skies
Mike

Wow! I go away for two and half years and when I return this thread is still going.

welcome back