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'Are UFOs Real?'
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Carl Sagan once stated that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.â€
In the case of the UFO issue this could be clarified with two additional statements: The development of extraordinary evidence requires extraordinary attention, and extraordinary attention is not merely justified, but virtually demanded by the growing legion of extraordinary observations.
So, from this I would also suggest this enlightening document for you to study; “DISCLOSURE PROJECT BRIEFING DOCUMENT†by Dr. Steven M. Greer and Dr. Theodore C. Loder III published in April of 2001. It runs for over five hundred pages of detailed information written and prepared for members of the US government, the scientific community and interested parties. This document will also help you better understand the UFO situation, so lots of strong coffee and free time recommended! The evidence speaks volumes for the reality of UFOs.
The Modus Operandi of the possible intelligence/s behind the UFOs is still open to debate, but after quite a number of years involvement with the subject of UFOs I personally think the extraterrestrial hypotheses is a valid one based on the wealth of evidence collected so far, now, a big question, is the UFO situation a direct manifestation of extraterrestrial technology (e.g. very highly advanced interstellar probes), are the people that possibly constructed these devices actually here in person, perhaps both or it could be something else entirely. Perhaps in time when science has come out of self denial and stopped tripping over the first hurdle of even acknowledging UFOs as a reality (whatever UFOs turn out to be) and therefore unworthy of scientific investigation, perhaps then we can all move forward to understand what is truly behind the UFOs!
In the meantime too few scientists have taken up and ran the gauntlet through academia without coming through unscathed on the other side, the reasons for this are quite clear as you are probably aware, hence we are left with a relatively small number of pioneering scientists studying the UFO situation with non-existing funding and at the same time the observations of UFOs, the photos, the videos, EMF anomalies, RADAR returns and tracking, physical landings and in rare cases alleged interactions and communications with non-terrestrial people keep been reported and continues to mount not only by the public, but also the military, airline pilots, astronomers, scientists and so on, the people look to scientists for answers, unfortunately the majority of scientists are not replying.
Anecdotal evidence (as you put it) is based on description of a person’s direct experience; from this should we therefore rule out this experiential factor? In addition to this there is on occasion’s high quality supporting evidence. The sustainability of any anecdote really depends on the amount, quality and precision of the available data, and secondly the personal character and technical / professional background of the witness/es. You may be interested to know that polygraph tests have been completed on certain witnesses to UFO events and a battery of technological tests completed on UFO photos, videos, soil, metal and mineral samples for over 60 years which has many people baffled, in fact the clear evidence is more than is required by courts of law in most countries. Even if only 0.10% of all the reports, all the evidence over the many decades were actually true then we are really in for a profound change, indeed a quantum leap. Perhaps the biggest hurdle to finding out what is scientifically and truly behind the UFOs is ourselves.
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Mike
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Hi RonanCarl Sagan once stated that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.â€
In the case of the UFO issue this could be clarified with two additional statements: The development of extraordinary evidence requires extraordinary attention, and extraordinary attention is not merely justified, but virtually demanded by the growing legion of extraordinary observations.
No one doubts there are unidentified flying objects; and there is plenty of observations of such ufo's.
The extraordinary claim is that some UFO's are spacecraft from an ET civilisation. No evidence has been presented for that that I have come across. There is no artifact that can be shown to have been produced by ET's, no little green men demanding to meet our leader. Thats the sort of extraordinary evidence thats needed.
Albert White MSc FRAS
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What makes you think possible ETs are green and little (are you referring to skin colour / clothing or both) and why would they want to met with any leader, especially ours?
Actually, the little “green man syndrome†has been done to death, the origin of this is unknown to me and I am not aware of any reports in the available literature of sightings of humanoids that are both green and small of stature. The term shortened to “LGM†is usually used as a means of ridicule or indeed to change the subject matter.
In the Disclosure briefing document as one example I have posted you can read eyewitness testimonies of people that HAVE completed physical studies on non-terrestrial persons, witnessed same in close proximity to UFOs and indeed worked on and handled extraterrestrial technology is this not extraordinary evidence in its own right what these people are telling us, now, why have we (the public) not seen all the really juicy undeniable hard physical evidence of this, good question, I think if you study this document you will understand to some degree why! Perhaps in time the truth will reveal itself, in the meantime absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I will gladly e-mail this document to anyone that is interested.
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Mike
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In the Disclosure briefing document as one example I have posted you can read eyewitness testimonies of people that HAVE completed physical studies on non-terrestrial persons, witnessed same in close proximity to UFOs and indeed worked on and handled extraterrestrial technology is this not extraordinary evidence in its own right what these people are telling us
So I can believer either
a) A conspiracy theory that somewhere there are alien bodies being studied and technology that a few people have managed to leak out reports of.
or
b) the witnesses are misinterpreting, mis remembering, getting dreams and reality mixed up, hallucinating, or just plain lying.
Based on what we know of our planet and humanity, which of those is more likely? Unless bodies or artifacts can be produced to support a then I'll go wit b.
Albert White MSc FRAS
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With respective populations of more than 1.3 billion and more than 1 billion, shouldn't the peoples of China and India have more?
Just a thought.
Paul
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Professor Helmut Lammer is a space scientist with the Austrian Space Research Institute whom researched the ET type abduction phenomena. I personally met him at an ESA Astrobiology conference in Italy. I spent some hours with him discussing his research.
He published a book called MILABs that may have the answer for regarding the selectivity of countries that you mentioned in your post. He told me that the research he did in MILABs shows compelling evidence that a secret military/intelligence task force operates since the early eighties in North America and is involved in monitoring and kidnapping of alleged UFO-abductees. In the beginning of the eighties a lot of money became available legal and over black budgets for top secret military projects like the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI).
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